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house Bill H.R. 5826

Should Korean War POWs and MIAs Be Retroactively Eligible For Full Combat Pay?

Argument in favor

Korean War POWs and MIAs are the only U.S. service members who aren’t eligible for full combat pay. This is a historic injustice that must be righted.

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11/24/2018
HELL YES, WHY SHOULDN’T THEY BE PAID The Korean War POWs and MIAs are the only U.S. service members who aren’t eligible for full combat pay. The same should also be applied to Vietnam 🇻🇳 MIA/KIAs. This is a historic injustice that must be righted. SneakyPete..... 👍🏻👍🏻🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏻👍🏻. 11*24*18.....
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Colt's Opinion
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11/24/2018
How much of garbage human beings do we have to be, to not realize that this is a no brainer? Paying these men is the very least that can be done for them and their families.
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Mark's Opinion
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11/24/2018
Damn right they should! I am shocked we even have to ask this question!
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Argument opposed

This bill has no chance of passage, as the Army has historically opposed efforts to grant Korean War POWs full combat pay.

Cathy's Opinion
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11/24/2018
If you’re not going to do the same for WWII vets, then don’t do this. There was only a five year difference between those conflicts. My Father was both a WWII and Korean War vet who also spent 2 & 1/2 years as a German POW and I know, if he were alive today, he would say the same. Monetary reward was not why he served, and while this country is currently facing a historical monetary deficit, this is not the time to expend funds that do not exist. He was a lifetime Republican who strongly believed in fiscal responsibility, something the current party seems to have forgotten.
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Hans's Opinion
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11/24/2018
Only for their time of service and / or captivity. MIA personnel to be paid to the end of their service date or death if the time of death can be determined.
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PatriotQNV's Opinion
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11/27/2018
If we cant do this for all veterans of all wars No. If we can do this for ww2, korean and vietnam vets and all veterans yes. We shouldnt forget all the other vets of the other wars still alive today.
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      house Committees
      Committee on Armed Services
    IntroducedMay 15th, 2018

What is House Bill H.R. 5826?

This bill — the Never Forgotten Korean War POW Act — would provide former U.S. military members who were captured as prisoners of war (POWs) or entered as missing-in-action (MIA) during the Korean War with combat pay for each month spent in POW or MIA status. Currently, these former servicemembers can only receive up to four months of combat pay, regardless of the length of time they spent as POWs or MIA.

Impact

Korean War POWs; Korean War MIAs; and the Combat Duty Pay Act of 1952

Cost of House Bill H.R. 5826

A CBO cost estimate is unavailable.

More Information

In-Depth: After working alongside Korean War veteran and prisoner of war (POW) Corporal Raymond Melin of Cornwall, NY, Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney (D-NY) introduced this bill to retroactively eliminate the unique and arbitrary three-month limit on combat pay eligibility for Korean War POWs:

“Corporal Ray Mellin was a POW for 37 months, but his time in an enemy prison wasn’t recognized in the way it should have been and it’s about a lot more than just the money. The Korean War is often called ‘the forgotten war,’ but my bill aims to ensure we don’t forget those who served and sacrificed – sometimes the little things say a lot, and I’m hoping my bill will honor these veterans in the way they deserve to be honored.”

Korean War POW Corporal Raymond Mellin, who was held in a Korean prison for 37 months during the Korean War, but only received combat pay for three months, adds, “My fervent wish is to have this injustice made right, not for the monetary reasons, but to honor the remaining few Korean War POWs.”

This is not the first attempt to get full combat pay for Korean War POWs. POW Wilbert “Shortly” Estabrook worked with now-retired Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) for years to try to accomplish this goal. Ultimately, the Army opposed their efforts.

Estabrook believes this bill doesn’t go far enough, and would like to see the next of kin of deceased POWs receive their loved ones’ combat pay. He says, “This issue can be settled with little cost. Combat pay was $45 a month in those days. Perhaps a statutory amount could be established to speed up the process.” However, he isn’t optimistic that this bill will succeed, saying that, “If the chair is of one party and the one introducing from another party it could remain in limbo forever. The Army would not budge on this issue when I worked for its approval for years. Why would they change now?"

Rep. Maloney originally attempted to attach this bill to the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act, but the House Rules Committee ruled it out of order.

There are no cosponsors of this bill.


Of Note: The Combat Duty Pay Act of 1952 established expanded payment parameters for members of the armed services who met certain criteria. Upon its enactment, Congress committed to paying $45 per month to servicemembers serving at least six days in designated frontline combat units or those wounded, injured, or killed by “hostile fire.” It also limited the combat pay of POW-MIAs to “not more than three months.” So while Korean War POWs qualified for combat pay, the law instituted a three-month limit on their eligibility.

After the Korean War, the Navy and Air Force protested the combat pay law, and “broad, geographically-based zonal eligibility” was instituted. This system endures today, leaving Korean War POW-MIAs as the only group excluded from full compensation.


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Summary by Lorelei Yang

(Photo Credit: iStockphoto.com / toos)

AKA

Never Forgotten Korean War POW Act

Official Title

To amend the Combat Duty Pay Act of 1952 to require that former members of the uniformed services who were captured or entered a missing-in-action status during the Korean War while serving as a member of a combat unit in Korea receive combat pay for each month spent in a captured or missing-in-action status, rather than just a total of four months.

    HELL YES, WHY SHOULDN’T THEY BE PAID The Korean War POWs and MIAs are the only U.S. service members who aren’t eligible for full combat pay. The same should also be applied to Vietnam 🇻🇳 MIA/KIAs. This is a historic injustice that must be righted. SneakyPete..... 👍🏻👍🏻🤷🏼‍♂️👍🏻👍🏻. 11*24*18.....
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    If you’re not going to do the same for WWII vets, then don’t do this. There was only a five year difference between those conflicts. My Father was both a WWII and Korean War vet who also spent 2 & 1/2 years as a German POW and I know, if he were alive today, he would say the same. Monetary reward was not why he served, and while this country is currently facing a historical monetary deficit, this is not the time to expend funds that do not exist. He was a lifetime Republican who strongly believed in fiscal responsibility, something the current party seems to have forgotten.
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    How much of garbage human beings do we have to be, to not realize that this is a no brainer? Paying these men is the very least that can be done for them and their families.
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    Damn right they should! I am shocked we even have to ask this question!
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    Yes they gave up so much & will continue through out there lives!
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    Every man or woman that has been held captive should receive every compensation owed. Any veteran having been injured while SERVING this nation first of all should never pay taxes again. Secondly their compensation should be no less than $72000 a year. A 100% disabled veteran should get paid as much as a US Senator. Stop the lip service and show the brave respect and compensate them properly.
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    While I don’t believe in being such an aggressive, war mongering country. It is disgusting that these brave soldiers are not being paid for their service! If we are going to send in soldiers then we are obligated to pay those soldiers period.
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    Korean War POW & MIAs must get full retro active back pay! the nation owes gi's an undying debt of gratitude, the cost of War not free and must be paid to all who serve🗽 Please make the tRump Administration a appoint a fully qualified and competent CIO Chief Information Systems Officer to the Veterans Administration so they may get the pay/benefits they so richly earned and deserve🗽
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    Sure, they deserve it
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    As a veteran I fully support this.#MAGA
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    Support our Veterans!!!
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    How is this even a real question.
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    No brainer...
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    American POWs in Korea experienced a level of torture and abuse largely absent from previous wars, and this alone accounts for many of the breaches in military policy. Both the Chinese and Koreans forced American prisoners to endure death marches, extreme privation and harsh punishments. Weather and terrain made escape from the camps in North Korea impossible, as did the hostility of civilians toward U.N. troops. The Army initiated courts-martial against 13 soldiers for collaboration, but given the extreme circumstances one cannot view the issue in terms of courage. Rather, the survivors by virtue of the fact that they survived, should all be counted as heroes.
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    Yes absolutely!
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    We need to take care of our veterans.
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    Unhappily, my brother-in-law suffered from his stint as a demolition expert during the Korean War. Although he has died, my sister could certainly use a greater income than she is now receiving. She is going on 87 years of age, and can use all the help that she can get.
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    If we actually respect our veterans then they should be paid for all the time they spent as a soldier including as a POW or MIA. It shows a real lack of appreciation for them when they’re only eligible for up to 4 months of pay as a POW/MIA.
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    This isn’t even a question that should have to be asked. Their lives were taken for decades while in service to the US military. War is expensive we need to be much more discretionary before we enter into conflicts. War is easy to start and almost impossible to end. You can’t avoid the obligation to the men and women serving.
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    Why if these men were captured for a year or so be just able to claim for four months of pay?
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