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senate Bill S. 2798

Should Gov’t Whistleblowers be Protected From Retaliation & Have Their Identities Revealed to the Accused?

Argument in favor

When a whistleblower’s accusations lead to formal proceedings, such as an impeachment, the accused have a right to confront their accusers in person. As long as the Constitution is the law of the land, the Sixth Amendment supersedes statues affording anonymity to whistleblowers.

Matthew's Opinion
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11/26/2019
Whistleblowers should be protected as they are hopefully operating under the assumption for the good of the public welfare, whether in government or the private sector. If the whistleblower releases information that leads to a criminal trial, then the accused should have the right to defend themselves and confront the accuser. If the whistleblower is in the right, this should not be a problem.
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JTJ's Opinion
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11/26/2019
The whistleblower protection act does not protect a person’s identity, read it for yourself. How can a duly elected president be removed from office on the accusations of a fictional character? The people have a right to know who is trying to nullify their vote.
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Marti's Opinion
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11/26/2019
Everyone has the right to confront their accuser
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Argument opposed

Revealing the identity of a whistleblower to the person they’re accusing of wrongdoing increases the likelihood that the whistleblower will face retaliation because of their disclosure. That will have a chilling effect on the willingness of whistleblowers to come forward and report misconduct.

Aaron's Opinion
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11/26/2019
No. Whistleblowers identities need not be revealed. The accused should have to answer to the merits of the claim.
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Yvonne's Opinion
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11/26/2019
We need to protect all whistleblowers but if we disclose their identity, then we put their lives and families lives in danger. Now more than ever this is true. The rhetoric coming from this occupant of the white house and his cult has cause and increase in violence in this country. We absolutely need to remove this hateful criminal and criminal regime.
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jimK's Opinion
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11/26/2019
Updated: I had to rewrite aspects if this several times as I became more and more enraged by Paul’s asinine legislation. Apologies to those who read earlier responses, … … … First, if Rand Paul actually cared at all about justice, he would be leading the charge to stop the illegal suppression of witnesses and testimony subpoenaed by the House for their investigations. In this particular case the whistleblower only reported that there were legitimate concerns expressed by others regarding what they heard and observed; and DID NOT IN ANY WAY ALLEGE THAT CRIMES WERE COMMITTED, NOR PROVIDE ANY FACTS TO SUPPORT THAT CRIMES WERE COMMITTED- only the concerns of others. The fact that Republicans want this person to testify is astonishing since they have stated that only first hand testimony is relevant. The selective questionable application of legal principles to support party goals in one instance and then to argue that opposite, contradictory legal principles must apply to another aspect in order support their party’s attempt to indemnify their prior actions demonstrates the highly corrupting influence of the regimented party-before-country, party-before-principles dominance of the Republican Party; and if there enough thinking people left in the electorate, will accelerate the demise of the current Republican Party. .… … … Otherwise; Absolutely NO to Paul’s asinine proposal. If a bystander witnesses a cartel massacre, anonymously tells police that they witnessed it, provide details of the car that was used, the weapons employed, people they saw, how they conducted the massacre, the time it happened, which way the car went afterwards and so forth - and all of these details are verified by independent investigations and asserted to by credible witnesses; Why should this whistleblower be subjected the very real threats to their lives and livelihoods by being compelled to publicly testify? Fact are facts irregardless of whoever first pointed out concerns that facts may exist. If facts are corroborated by many witnesses there is absolutely no need to identify the person who properly alerted officials. This bill makes no sense at all and would certainly prevent bystanders from ever reporting crimes. In addressing the Randy reason for proposing this, trump’s own hateful rhetoric inferring that this whistleblower is treasonous and should be subject to capital punishment is reason enough to protect their identity. The innocents slaughtered in San Antonio which was inspired by trump’s race-based hateful rhetoric highlights the danger to our patriotic whistleblower and the incredibly stupid claim that they could ever be protected from any retaliation. Particularly in the case; the whistleblower never alleged any crimes, only the concerns of others and the irregular actions that occurred that legitimately led to concerns that something inappropriate was done. Credible witnesses, who put themselves and their careers at risk validated those concerns and more. So, who exactly is the ‘accuser’ that the alleged criminal has any right to confront? The whistleblower reported concerns through legal channels and the testimony of credible witnesses validated those concerns which led directly to factually based indictable charges of wrong doing. There is absolutely no reason at all to compel him or her to testify. I suggest Rand Paul sponsor legislation to mandate imprisonment of a minimum of 5 years for any person inside or outside the government who out’s a whistleblower identity as well as an immediate removal from office of any elected official or political appointee that either out’s a whistleblower or is complicit in doing so. Then, and only then, would I even ever want to consider this ludicrous proposal. I suggest that the RNC and Republican Party start acting like officers of the court and seek truth and not to engage in distracting side-shows. If they continue to collectively cover their butts from their own complicity in not reigning in their Frankenstein president from trampling our Constitutional and legislated laws; if they continue to abuse their role in honoring their duty to perform adequate checks of the balance of powers, a much more informed and less easily misled electorate will hold them to account. A Senate trial will be as much about the perceived corrupting of the Republican Party as it is about trump’s abuses. Even if trump ‘wins’, the Republican Party may ‘lose’ big if they continue to engage in simply covering their tracks by willful tactics designed to thwart the pursuit of justice. It’s a big gamble to take. You all feeling lucky, punks!
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      Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs
    IntroducedNovember 6th, 2019
    An interesting juxtaposition of bill components. Let’s tell everyone who a whistleblower is and depend on everyone’s better angels to protect them. Does anyone see a problem here?
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    Whistleblowers identity should be absolutely protected from everyone, especially the accused, as they are usually incredibly powerful people. People who will never forget the one who outed them for their wrongdoing.
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    This bill undermines Whistleblower protection, while masquerading as affirming those protections. Please vote no on this bill.
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    Rand Paul is being overly partisan & he must know it. Everybody in the legislative branch know the purpose of keeping the whistle blower anonymous but because it fits the Republican narrative that the process is “unfair” they are willing to overturn the protections to save a corrupt president that they know would tweet shame them into losing their next primary run.
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    Whistle Blowers deserve our protection.
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    Whistle blowers must be protected or we will have no whistle blowers!
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    You tell the Ignorants, jimK. Without protecting the whistleblower, we assure that some crimes will continue unabated! No identity revealed in any way, shape or form! We must insure that people can speak up without fear of retaliation! End of discussion! Period!
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    We have this legislation for a reason! We must protect whistleblowers as a means of increasing transparency in our government. Only corrupt politicians would want to out whistleblowers.
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    how is this even a question? this is ridiculous. this has already been protected and needs to be protected.
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    They need to be protected.
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    The whistleblower protection act does not protect a person’s identity, read it for yourself. How can a duly elected president be removed from office on the accusations of a fictional character? The people have a right to know who is trying to nullify their vote.
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    No this seems like a back hand way of intimidated whistle blowers
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    I’m for every protection aspect of this bill, but DO NOT release the Whistleblower’s identity!!! I don’t think the person would be safe no matter how much protection was guaranteed or ensured. Therefore I say NO to this bill. Keep the WB ID secret.
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    Everyone has the right to confront their accuser
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    Two things wrong with this bill. The first is the author is Rand Paul. The second is; “The confrontation clause protects only the accused at a criminal trial. The point is that before one’s liberty is taken away, one must have the opportunity to question one’s accusers. Impeachment, however, is not even a legal proceeding, much less a criminal trial. It is a political proceeding. No one’s liberty is at stake; it is strictly about whether an official should be stripped of political authority — in the president’s case, of the executive power… Finally, even when the Sixth Amendment does apply (at a criminal trial), the confrontation it guarantees is the ability to cross-examine the witnesses the prosecution calls to establish its case. It does not extend to other people (e.g., tipsters, others who’ve provided hearsay information to investigators). It is very common in the investigative stage for police to receive damning information about a suspect from second- and third-hand sources. That information is investigated, which is how the police and prosecutors locate the first-hand witnesses who are called at the eventual trial. There is no right to confront witnesses the prosecutor does not call, even if they have provided accusatory information… The Sixth Amendment has nothing to do with impeachment, and it does not advance a claim that [a] ‘whistleblower’ should be outed and questioned.”
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    Under no circumstances should whistle blowers identity be revealed. This president has done nothing but show his administration and his personal life is nothing but retaliation against people who don’t agree with him. Republicans have done nothing but advance his lawlessness. Trump did not win the popular vote, so republicans saying he was picked by the people is a lie. Worst president in my lifetime.
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    Not in this “trial by media” presidency. People who have spoken up have had their names drug through the mud and it is beyond intimidating when the person whose doing it is the Commander-in-Chief. Therefore, those risking their jobs to come forward when this is their boss deserve added protection.
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    Yes, exactly as the question is stated: protect them from retaliation and reveal their identity. You should be able to face your accuser just as it works for civilians, and then protect the whistleblower from retaliation.
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    This is an either / or statement. Only an idiot from (R-KY) would think this is a good idea to reveal the ID of the whistle blower or not protect them. Badly written statements. This is not yay or nay answer but a Russian statement. This statement is like a question ( yes or no have you stop beating your wife). So far we got Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell two idiot from Kentucky both want to obstruct justice! How about neither! The whistle blower and dossier are only statements to be proven or disproven. It is like anonymous tips! Nancy peloton was right about all roads leading back to Putin, except for one thing, they run through the Republican Party. Mitch McConnell there is a real reason he is know as Moscow Mitch. Nunes is involved with Giuliani and Russian mob. Then you have Republican talking points of Putin propaganda! Not even talking Trump ties. It make perfect sense now, why the attack on Hillary Clinton, the FBI, CIA and why they constant attack and hacking the Democratic Party by breaking in. I wonder what Jordan, Dana rohrabacher (R-CA), Paul Behrend (R-committee aid) and others tries are to Russia Kremlin. How the NRA is involved with Russia? How Fox News and Breitbart is involved as well? The flow of Russian money to help Trump business? Putin oligarch funnel millions in to the GOP. Campaigns. Russia knows if you controlled the electoral college you win, because the popular vote means nothing! Trump been a Russian asset sense 1987. Putin holds all the cards!
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    That is the whole point! To remain unknown.
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