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house Bill H.R. 880

Should Grants be Available for Qualified Military Personnel to Provide Care at Civilian Trauma Centers?

Argument in favor

Quality trauma care can mean the difference between life in death in both military and civilian settings. The grant program established by this bill would give civilian providers a chance to learn about the military’s best practices and military providers an opportunity to use their expertise without leaving the military.

Jennifer 's Opinion
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02/25/2018
Sometimes the mind-boggling idiocy in comments made (e.g. this is just trying to create militancy, more for the military’s industrial complex, the military gives awful care to traumatized soldiers, they have training programs for vets, why do they need grant $, etc.), astound me! So know this...1) Those receiving essential trauma training like no other—learned in mass casualty environments on an on-going basis—will be the CIVILIANS! What our current wars have taught the military trauma surgeons about TBI alone is invaluable...this bill is about a mass transfer of knowledge that could ultimately save any one of us; 2) The VA— a huge govn’t beauracracy who until the VA Accountability Act, had no accountability and were almost impossible to fire the incompetent are the ones who’ve provided poor care. The military trauma responders give excellent care, in the worst conditions possible; 3) Aside from the expenses mentioned (e.g. insurance), onboarding any new employee incurs costs; 4) Having retired from a hospital, I know how badly medical personnel are needed. This is a bi-partisan bill and is a no-brainer; it has many benefits for both parties, and the public at-large.
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IllWill's Opinion
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02/25/2018
Don’t see a problem here. If we have some of the best trauma care providers in the military, it would greatly benefit civilians to bring them over to civilian hospitals.
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Colleen 's Opinion
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02/25/2018
Seems like a very efficient way to transition military personnel back into civilian life where their skill and training can be best utilized.
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Argument opposed

While offering $15 million in annual grants for military trauma care providers to work in civilian trauma centers when they aren’t deployed is an interesting idea, these partnerships should be investigated further before the government commits those resources.

Thelma's Opinion
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02/25/2018
All the physicians I know (many) who serve in the military have appointments at hospitals and are welcomed back without problem. This looks like a way to further increase the industrial military complex and put more money in defense where it isn’t needed. Put that money into medical research instead.
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Laura's Opinion
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02/25/2018
Why do you need a grant for this? Shouldn’t it be a team effort to practice medicine for all civilians and military? There should have been a joint effort crated for this.
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Doug's Opinion
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02/25/2018
Way to Vague - Where is the Money Going!! Needs to Go to Veterans
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bill Progress


  • Not enacted
    The President has not signed this bill
  • The senate has not voted
      senate Committees
      Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
  • The house Passed February 26th, 2018
    Passed by Voice Vote
      house Committees
      Committee on Energy and Commerce
      Health
    IntroducedFebruary 6th, 2017

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    Sometimes the mind-boggling idiocy in comments made (e.g. this is just trying to create militancy, more for the military’s industrial complex, the military gives awful care to traumatized soldiers, they have training programs for vets, why do they need grant $, etc.), astound me! So know this...1) Those receiving essential trauma training like no other—learned in mass casualty environments on an on-going basis—will be the CIVILIANS! What our current wars have taught the military trauma surgeons about TBI alone is invaluable...this bill is about a mass transfer of knowledge that could ultimately save any one of us; 2) The VA— a huge govn’t beauracracy who until the VA Accountability Act, had no accountability and were almost impossible to fire the incompetent are the ones who’ve provided poor care. The military trauma responders give excellent care, in the worst conditions possible; 3) Aside from the expenses mentioned (e.g. insurance), onboarding any new employee incurs costs; 4) Having retired from a hospital, I know how badly medical personnel are needed. This is a bi-partisan bill and is a no-brainer; it has many benefits for both parties, and the public at-large.
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    All the physicians I know (many) who serve in the military have appointments at hospitals and are welcomed back without problem. This looks like a way to further increase the industrial military complex and put more money in defense where it isn’t needed. Put that money into medical research instead.
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    Why do you need a grant for this? Shouldn’t it be a team effort to practice medicine for all civilians and military? There should have been a joint effort crated for this.
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    Don’t see a problem here. If we have some of the best trauma care providers in the military, it would greatly benefit civilians to bring them over to civilian hospitals.
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    Seems like a very efficient way to transition military personnel back into civilian life where their skill and training can be best utilized.
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    Way to Vague - Where is the Money Going!! Needs to Go to Veterans
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    Medically trained professionals are in short supply everywhere , it seems. Those who’ve served their country should be able to continue their services with the help of a grant.
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    Quality trauma care can mean the difference between life in death in both military and civilian settings. The grant program established by this bill would give civilian providers a chance to learn about the military’s best practices and military providers an opportunity to use their expertise without leaving the military.
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    To those that are against this proposal because they think this has anything to do with the VA, it doesn’t. I have worked as a travel nurse all over our great nation. The VA nurses in the areas I’ve worked in are civilian nurses. This proposal is a great opportunity for military personnel to learn the ins and outs of working in the civilian trauma centers. It’s great opportunity for civilian and military personnel to learn from each other. It also gives the healthcare providers from the military to be able to go to work in civilian hospitals when they leave the military. It could possibly help them emotionally and psychologically. And possibly help with prevention of homelessness of our veterans. Helping others could help them with psychological problems from being in wars.
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    Definitely
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    Why do you need money? Just let them do the job!
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    Incorporating military trauma into private hospitals is a great move for the good of the people. The military provides only the highest quality of training to their personnel, and this would be a valuable asset for the hospitals who accept them.
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    Isn’t this called...National Guard?
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    Here we go with the Liberals whinnying about the Military. Do you not think that if we didn’t have a Military that maybe just maybe you might not have ANY RIGHTS to say the IGNORANT crap you people say all the time? You realize that places that you libs seem to like and admire, oh say like China, Russia, Myanmar uhm some of you have even said you want North Korea to take over South Korea. Any chance those same countries would afford you to say the Bat Crap Crazy stuff you spew? I think not. No they are COMMUNIST Countries and they would just as soon shoot you in the head or hang you. So the next time you want to hate us (the Military ) the people that protect YOUR right to say BAT CRAP CRAZY STUPID STUFF. Just say thank You and move along your ignorant self righteous path.
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    I think this sounds wonderful, but I’m confused. If you have a skill that someone else wants, they should pay you to get that expertise. So why aren’t the hospitals paying the government to provide the new techniques/knowledge? It would still be mutually beneficial, but it shouldn’t cost the government a dime.
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    I would need a LOT more information about how this would work before expressing a yay or nay.
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    This is a good interim policy. We need to invest more in trauma care and physicians practicing in underserved areas. More individuals need to have health insurance thy provides access to trauma services.
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    Yeah, I guess we’re going to need it, since we apparently can do nothing to stop the NRA, trump, and the GOP from turning the US into a war zone
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    There is a shortage of doctors now because of the high cost of education, so why not let these veterans fill the spots?
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    Why not they're doing their duty to keep America safe it should be what ever they need
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