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house Bill H.R. 4909

Authorizing Defense Spending for Fiscal Year 2017

Argument in favor

Congress has a constitutional duty to provide for the national defense, and while this bill is a compromise it will strengthen the military at a time when threats are increasing and funding is hard to come by.

operaman's Opinion
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05/17/2016
Wouldn't it be nice if a Defense bill actually covered defense. We have China building islands in the South China Sea, the spread of ISIS in the Middle East, Russian aggression in the Ukraine and Iran spreading terrorism worldwide. But alas, we again fine a PORK laced bill. We needs planes and ships, aid for our Vets, more trained personnel and research into modern weapons.
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BTSundra's Opinion
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05/17/2016
One of the few constitutional authorities and responsibilities of the federal government is to protect us.
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Gopin2020's Opinion
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05/18/2016
I am for this , with all combat jobs now being open to women, it only fair & equal that they register for the draft. While it would take a major conflict for a draft to be done; it hasn't been done since Vietnam , it would take a major attack possibly terrorist or similar for this to happen where a major mobilization to occur. I am for a mandatory service like Israel has where all citizens serve, too few serve today. All citizens should share in our defense if you are going to enjoy the benefits of freedom. I would grant few exemptions to people serving ; disability etc. rich and poor alike would serve no exception. 1% serving today is a disgrace, although we do have some of the best all volunteers.
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Argument opposed

Even though this bill’s authors provide for the same amount to be spent on national defense as the president’s budget proposal, it misses the mark by diverting warfighting funds to base budget programs.

SamJenkins's Opinion
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05/17/2016
It is time to spend our money on the retooling of America rather than the policing of the world.
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BubonicClegg's Opinion
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05/18/2016
We already spend as much on our military as the next seven countries combined. "Funding" for defense isn't so hard to come by. If our military can't operate with what they're given, perhaps we need to rethink our military strategies since an egregious "defense" doesn't stop the so-called threat to us. Unless the additional funding is going toward taking care of our veterans, we need to spend less on defense
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SouthernGal's Opinion
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05/17/2016
This bill needs to be junked. It spends money on things the DOD doesn't want, like keeping unwanted bases open, while constricting funds on actual needed boosts for our troops. The bill also continues unwarranted restrictions regarding detainees at Guantanamo Bay, would prevent the United States from fulfilling its obligations under a treaty, and includes non-germane policy riders, such as those undermining the Endangered Species Act as well as public land management statutes. In addition, the Russell amendment will legalize discrimination against women, and the LGBTQ community. If this new language becomes law, employers could: Fire an unmarried mother Fire a woman who's had premarital sex Fire an LGBTQ person because of who they love or how they identify Fire a woman for having an abortion Fire someone for using birth control The Russell Amendment would jeopardize existing non-discrimination policies that protect 28 million workers—one-fifth of the country's workforce. It would also allow religiously-affiliated organizations that receive federal grants and contracts (like hospitals and universities) to discriminate against a broad swath of our society. Congress has taken a bill that needs to be passed and turned it into a collectIon of right-wing give-mes.
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  • Not enacted
    The President has not signed this bill
  • The senate has not voted
  • The house Passed May 19th, 2016
    Roll Call Vote 277 Yea / 147 Nay
      house Committees
      Intelligence and Emerging Threats and Capabilities
      Committee on Armed Services
      Tactical Air and Land Forces
      Military Personnel
      Readiness
      Seapower and Projection Forces
      Strategic Forces
    IntroducedApril 12th, 2016

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    Wouldn't it be nice if a Defense bill actually covered defense. We have China building islands in the South China Sea, the spread of ISIS in the Middle East, Russian aggression in the Ukraine and Iran spreading terrorism worldwide. But alas, we again fine a PORK laced bill. We needs planes and ships, aid for our Vets, more trained personnel and research into modern weapons.
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    It is time to spend our money on the retooling of America rather than the policing of the world.
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    We already spend as much on our military as the next seven countries combined. "Funding" for defense isn't so hard to come by. If our military can't operate with what they're given, perhaps we need to rethink our military strategies since an egregious "defense" doesn't stop the so-called threat to us. Unless the additional funding is going toward taking care of our veterans, we need to spend less on defense
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    One of the few constitutional authorities and responsibilities of the federal government is to protect us.
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    This bill needs to be junked. It spends money on things the DOD doesn't want, like keeping unwanted bases open, while constricting funds on actual needed boosts for our troops. The bill also continues unwarranted restrictions regarding detainees at Guantanamo Bay, would prevent the United States from fulfilling its obligations under a treaty, and includes non-germane policy riders, such as those undermining the Endangered Species Act as well as public land management statutes. In addition, the Russell amendment will legalize discrimination against women, and the LGBTQ community. If this new language becomes law, employers could: Fire an unmarried mother Fire a woman who's had premarital sex Fire an LGBTQ person because of who they love or how they identify Fire a woman for having an abortion Fire someone for using birth control The Russell Amendment would jeopardize existing non-discrimination policies that protect 28 million workers—one-fifth of the country's workforce. It would also allow religiously-affiliated organizations that receive federal grants and contracts (like hospitals and universities) to discriminate against a broad swath of our society. Congress has taken a bill that needs to be passed and turned it into a collectIon of right-wing give-mes.
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    I am for this , with all combat jobs now being open to women, it only fair & equal that they register for the draft. While it would take a major conflict for a draft to be done; it hasn't been done since Vietnam , it would take a major attack possibly terrorist or similar for this to happen where a major mobilization to occur. I am for a mandatory service like Israel has where all citizens serve, too few serve today. All citizens should share in our defense if you are going to enjoy the benefits of freedom. I would grant few exemptions to people serving ; disability etc. rich and poor alike would serve no exception. 1% serving today is a disgrace, although we do have some of the best all volunteers.
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    I would like to see a portion of this money be appropriated toward improving the infrastructure of the Army National Guard. During my six years in the ARNG I was always in a state of suspended disbelief over the condition of our Armory's. When I was on Active Duty with both the Marine Corps and the Army, I never seen such a state of disrepair as what I did when I was in the ARNG. My Armory in particular would go for periods of time with no heating and cooling, or when it would rain heavily and the basement would often flood, then there was that time when the roof needed repairs and we literally had asbestos falling from the ceiling. This problem wasn't just endemic to our Armory, as it was with all the Armory's I ever visited. The same could be said with the Joint Maneuver Training Center's that we trained in for both our weekend and Annual Training's. I won't even bring up the conditions of the Joint Forces Training Center we underwent our Pre-Mobilization training in for four months before our deployment. Suffice to say though, we had it better in Afghanistan at our little Combat Outpost than we did there. We were an Infantry Battalion, so we were used to going without and making due with what we did have. When we did train we were always out in the field, either under a blazing hot sun in the summer, or the frigid snows of winter, regardless if we were sleeping in the rain or in the mud, there was still the expectation that when he maneuvered back to the barracks, that the showers would work, the toilets would flush and the food would always be hot.
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    It'll take years to repair the damage that the Obama administration has done... The military will need funding and this is all we can do under an administration that doesn't care about defense.
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    I don't support money that will fund neo-imperialist practices.
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    I'm tired of my taxes being spent on wars when this country is crumbling to pieces, education isn't being funded and you can no longer raise a family on one income. That money should be invested in the future of this country and not be cast into the bottomless pit of our military.
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    We seriously need, at this time in USA history, to RE-BUILD our MILITARY. We must protect our children's lives, their future, from those who openly swear to kill and destroy all of America!
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    This is wayyyy too much to spend on killing people when we have such rampant problems here. Nation building starts at home.
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    We need to focus on domestic issues before we spend this much on military.
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    The United States needs to take a more non-interventionist role in global affairs. We need to begin a withdraw of military forces from foreign countries, stop funding international groups, and instead focus our resources on homeland defense. It's called the Department of Defense, not the Department of War.
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    All over this country people are starving, sick people can't afford their medicine, and high school grads can barely read. Without this type of military spending we might be the great nation we claim to be.
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    As long as we spend billions--even trillions--on war, weapons, and equipment to reinforce the American Empire, the more the international community, and even the American people, will lose confidence that the American government has peace as its goal. As long as we spend billions--even trillions--on war, weapons, and equipment to reinforce the American Empire, the more it becomes clear that we care more about enriching the pockets of defense contractors than the desperately poor in this country who need welfare programs, free college education, and single-payer healthcare. Voting down this pocket-liner budget is the truly humanitarian and Christian thing to do.
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    There is a lot of waste in this bill, and an easy $20 billion could be siphoned off to education and change the country forever in a positive way.
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    Stop funding war. Promote peace, education, prosperity...
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    Defense is our nations strongest attribute, it should remain that way.
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    Stop taking pay and benefits from troops to pay for pet projects and social experiments.
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