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house Bill H.R. 333

Closing a Loophole That Reduces Retirement and/or Disability Pay For Certain Veterans

Argument in favor

The retirement pay and disability compensation veterans receive is reimbursement for two separate aspects of their service, and they should be paid in full for both.

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04/01/2017
This is a dynamite bill that would go a long way towards improving the lives of some of our military men and women and their families. This is bipartisan legislation, introduced by a Democrat, and it demonstrates the best in creative lawmaking to address the failures of existing law or regulations! Two thumbs up on this one! 馃憤馃憤
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Adam's Opinion
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04/01/2017
This is such a pitfully small impact on the budget, that it would truly be heartless to argue that it shouldn't go through.
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04/01/2017
As a disabled veteran, I live on a limited and slight fixed income. It really doesn't afford room for much after all the bills are paid. An opportunity to work some wiggle room into the budget would be welcome. The disabled community as a whole, not just veterans, need a little more toward a liveable income.
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Argument opposed

This bill would potentially allow veterans to draw funds from three sources - the Department of Defense, the VA, and Social Security Disability. We need to find a simpler way to honor our commitments to veterans.

YuiYuiMaMa's Opinion
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04/01/2017
Fair compensation is important. But, many vets are not in touch with reality with regard to what fair is. I hear daily complaints about anual Tricare premums that are expensive enough to cover about 45 days of my civilian coverage. We should pay them what we owe. But, stop with the gravy train.
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Mayne240's Opinion
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04/01/2017
Our vets have been through enough. Leave their pay alone, they have to live too.
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adgrant35's Opinion
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04/01/2017
I'm a vet. Thus doesn't help. We need the whole country's Healthcare gaps filled.
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      house Committees
      Committee on Armed Services
      Military Personnel
      Disability Assistance and Memorial Affairs
      Committee on Veterans' Affairs
    IntroducedJanuary 5th, 2017

What is House Bill H.R. 333?

This bill would allow veterans who have a service-connected disability rating of less than 50 percent to receive veterans鈥 disability compensation and retired pay simultaneously. It would also cover eligible retirees who had a service-connected disability rated at 30 percent or more and were forced to retire before attaining 20 years of service (also known as Chapter 61 retirement). These veterans may still be subject to some reduction in benefits due to concurrent receipts while they are phased into the system.

This would close a gap which prevents veterans from receiving the full amount of both their retirement pay and disability compensation, which is known as 鈥concurrent receipt鈥. As the CBO explains: 鈥淐ombat-related special compensation is exempt from federal taxes, but concurrent retirement and disability compensation is not; some veterans qualify for both types of payment, but they must choose between the two.鈥

Impact

Veterans who would qualify based on their disability rating and service time, program administrators at the Department of Defense and VA.

Cost of House Bill H.R. 333

A CBO cost estimate is unavailable.

More Information

Of Note: A 2014 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report found that there were 59,251 veterans who received concurrent benefits from the DOD retirement system, the VA disability compensation, and Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI). A random sample of seven veterans yielded a range of total benefits paid to individual veterans from $19,210 to $152,719.

The Heritage Foundation published a report which noted that the Social Security Administration doesn鈥檛 consider VA disability compensation when computing SSDI benefits. This means that veterans receiving concurrent payment would receive the same amount from SSDI regardless of what they receive in disability compensation from  the VA.


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Summary by Eric Revell
(Photo Credit: Flickr user North Charleston)

AKA

Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act

Official Title

To amend title 10, United States Code, to permit retired members of the Armed Forces who have a service-connected disability rated less than 50 percent to receive concurrent payment of both retired pay and veterans' disability compensation, to extend eligibility for concurrent receipt to chapter 61 disability retirees with less than 20 years of service, and for other purposes.

    This is a dynamite bill that would go a long way towards improving the lives of some of our military men and women and their families. This is bipartisan legislation, introduced by a Democrat, and it demonstrates the best in creative lawmaking to address the failures of existing law or regulations! Two thumbs up on this one! 馃憤馃憤
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    This is such a pitfully small impact on the budget, that it would truly be heartless to argue that it shouldn't go through.
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    As a disabled veteran, I live on a limited and slight fixed income. It really doesn't afford room for much after all the bills are paid. An opportunity to work some wiggle room into the budget would be welcome. The disabled community as a whole, not just veterans, need a little more toward a liveable income.
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    They should be honored and protected and any cost. These are heroes who volunteered their lives to serve this Nation.
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    Always take care of veterans!
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    It鈥檚 simple, pay the Veterans what they deserve. Concurrent receipt for all retirees is supported by all Veterans Organizations because it鈥檚 the right thing to do. Don鈥檛 let the tell you it鈥檚 unaffordable. The cost is only a fraction of the amount spent on welfare.
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    Generally, veterans receive retirement when they have retired from the military after 20 YEARS of service. They deserve the pay benefits they were promised. If disabled during their service, they should also be compensated the determined amount... it only makes sense. Neither should be decreased because of the other.
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    I support the passage of H.R.s 303 & 333 (CONCURRENT RECEIPT OF MILITARY RETIRED PAY AND VA DISABILITY) and offer the statement by Clayton D. Jones, National Commander, Military Order Of The Purple Heart Of The U.S.A., Inc. It is a plain language guide to clarify why these pieces of legislation are good for Veterans and their communities. "This is another one of those peculiar laws that veterans, and particularly disabled veterans, have a hard time understanding. Congress has over the past few years made minor improvements in the law, MOPH believes that if a veteran who has a VA rating of fifty percent or higher is entitled to receive military retired pay and VA compensation. Why, in the interest of fairness, should not all retirees with a VA disability rating not be entitled to both? By not being allowed to receive both retired pay and VA compensation, a veteran who was wounded in combat but has a rating less than fifty percent is actually paying for being wounded out of his or her military retired pay. MOPH supports HR 333 鈥淭he Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act鈥 and HR 303 the 鈥淩etired Pay Restoration Act鈥. MOPH believes that most members of Congress can see the unfairness of the two issues SBP/DIC offset and the Concurrent Receipt vs. VA Compensation. MOPH fully understands that Congress is moving towards austerity and limiting the financial outlays of the federal government. MOPH members understand that to keep America strong, for which they shed their blood, we must put the financial house in order. Throughout America鈥檚 history there have been obvious wrongs that were finally righted by the Congress. We believe that even in these austere times ways can be found by Congress to right these two wrongs." As per the National Coalition for Homeless Veterans, "about 11% of all homeless adults are Veterans... two-thirds served our country for at least three years, and one-third were stationed in a war zone." Here's another point that strikes where it hurts "About 1.4 million other veterans, meanwhile, are considered at risk of homelessness due to poverty, lack of support networks, and dismal living conditions in overcrowded or substandard housing." Wouldn't it be more fiscally responsible to properly compensate our Veterans to the fullest extent they have earned without running the risk of them ending up draining State resources and tap dancing around while stealing from Paul (retired pay) to pay Peter (disability pay)?
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    Close any loophole that prevents vets from receiving the benefits they deserve. They were LIED to when they served, and we dishonor them still for the sacrifice they made on our collective behalf. Why is this even an issue? Let's divert some of that money for expensive WAR TOYS and we can fund whatever vets need in FULL.
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    Those that put their lives on the line for us need to be taken care of.
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    Our veterans are one of the least appreciated members of society currently. I believe we need to have far better mental health and General Health Care for every single veteran.
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    Retirement and disability covers two separate aspects of a veteran's service. Veterans should be paid in full for both.
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    The money is allocated. Quit penilizing the veterans, we worked all those years for little pay, for the hrs worked. Being away from our family , during holidays, birthdays etc.. You are affecting the people that made the least amount of money. This will help Veterans out. It will allow all veterans with disabilities, to be able to draw military retirement and va disability. People please read the bill before saying saying no.. If you just read the title, it does look like they are trying to take money away but they are not..
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    No way to treat others that gave it their all for this Country.
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    Veterans deserve as much compensation as possible for making the ultimate sacrifice of fighting for ourselves and others in the name of freedom. To that end, we should pay them as much as is legal.
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    HR 333-Disabled Veterans Tax Termination Act: As a medically retired (Chapter 61)AF member with two line of duty injuries. Not getting my military pay in lieu of VA pay puts constraints on my family and two sons. This retirement pay was to be their college pay. Penalizing people who were injured out of no fault and told to retire without benefits of pay is cruel. I would have stayed to 20 years, but was medically retired at just over 16 years. H.R. 333 would correct this.
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    Fair compensation is important. But, many vets are not in touch with reality with regard to what fair is. I hear daily complaints about anual Tricare premums that are expensive enough to cover about 45 days of my civilian coverage. We should pay them what we owe. But, stop with the gravy train.
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    Do we really want to deprive the brave souls, who keep us safe, of the compensation they have earned by willingly sacrificing themselves??
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    Absolutely!
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    While I agree that simpler solutions that honor our Vets are needed, without the money coming out of the coffers there will be no action. Let's Vets draw from three sources, they earned it. Then let Congress do their actual job and streamline things. If the funds are denied on the promise of easier solutions, I have zero faith that this issue won't be immediately dropped and out Vets will pay the price.
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