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house Bill H.R. 1315

Do Presidential Budget Proposals Need an Estimate of the Deficit’s Cost Per Taxpayer?

Argument in favor

Requiring the president’s budget proposal to cite the cost to each taxpayer of that year’s deficit increases awareness of the country’s fiscal situation, and is a very simple request.

SherryTX's Opinion
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10/19/2015
It goes without saying that budgets in DC need to be based in reality.
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operaman's Opinion
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10/19/2015
Kinda like making a trip. You know where you're starting from, but cannot start until you have a destination. But this trip needs a budget. Traveling is not cheap, so budget lines sets out expenses. In this analogy, we citizens are making this trip, so the total cost would be split up to each taxpayer. Now each citizen will realize his individual cost and can evaluate the trip parameters. Are you going to eat at McDonalds, Chili's or a Steak House. If the Steak House seem to much, you contact your Congressional Representative (trip planner) to reduce cost. Hopefully you can continue this analogy. If not, don't vote. Freeloaders also can't vote or make this trip. I really like the Founding Fathers idea of only "landholder" voters. Teenagers are always happy spending Dad's money.
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11/07/2016
This is a simple burden with which to comply and will help make more visible the debt burden being placed on American taxpayers. Now, taxes are not paid equally by all people so it's not actually useful for determining the true burden on a particular individual, but it will illustrate the average burden.
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Argument opposed

If people want to know the cost of the deficit per taxpayer they can research the projected deficit and number of taxpayers on their own.

Gary's Opinion
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11/06/2016
That's absurd and misleading. Which is no surprise. People pay different rates and have different deductions. There's no way to accurately pin down each taxpayer's share of the budget. Add to that the fact that Republican Congresses and presidents claim tax reductions by borrowing trillions of dollars for their wars, and you get legislation that is as inane as it is dishonest. Anyone who falls for this BS gets what they deserve.
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Mark's Opinion
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10/20/2015
This is only meant to harm the president; the budget proposal put by him is a suggestion not an order. This is a gigantic waste of taxpayer money.
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12/21/2015
People can do their own research on this if they want to know. The GOP only wants this as another excuse to totally ignore President Obama's budget requests. They have no problem adding to the deficit if it's for one of their pet projects. And data can and is interpreted in vastly different ways depending on who is looking at it, not to mention there are tons of different places to determine the data which would change from day to day depending on what brand of fear mongering the GOP was doing on that specific day. Congress needs to stop wasting time proposing stupid bills and actually pass laws that are good for the everyday American.
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What is House Bill H.R. 1315?

This bill would require the President’s annual budget that is submitted to Congress include an estimated cost per taxpayer of the projected deficit for that fiscal year.


The estimated cost would be arrived at by dividing the projected deficit by the number of taxpayers who file a federal income tax return. If the president’s budget proposal anticipates a surplus — meaning the government takes in more tax revenue than it spends — the proposal wouldn’t need to estimate the cost.

Impact

Citizens who want to know about the cost of the deficit per taxpayer, and the President.

Cost of House Bill H.R. 1315

A CBO cost estimate is unavailable.

More Information

In-Depth: Sponsoring Rep. Luke Messer (R-IN) believes this bill would help citizens understand the the cost to taxpayers that comes with deficit spending and a rising national debt:

“This bill won’t solve our nation’s fiscal problems or prevent the government from spending money it doesn’t have. But making this information more easily accessible will help us and our constituents better understand the impact of budgets that never balance.”

In Rep. Messer’s introductory press release, it was noted that the $474 million deficit embedded in President Obama’s fiscal year 2016 budget request would cost each taxpayer about $3,118.

In the previous session of Congress, the House passed this legislation’s predecessor by a 392-28 margin, with majorities of both parties voting in favor.


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Summary by Eric Revell
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Official Title

To amend section 1105(a) of title 31, United States Code, to require that annual budget submissions of the President to Congress provide an estimate of the cost per taxpayer of the deficit, and for other purposes.

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      senate Committees
      Committee on the Budget
  • The house Passed October 20th, 2015
    Passed by Voice Vote
      house Committees
      Committee on the Budget
    IntroducedMarch 4th, 2015

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    It goes without saying that budgets in DC need to be based in reality.
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    That's absurd and misleading. Which is no surprise. People pay different rates and have different deductions. There's no way to accurately pin down each taxpayer's share of the budget. Add to that the fact that Republican Congresses and presidents claim tax reductions by borrowing trillions of dollars for their wars, and you get legislation that is as inane as it is dishonest. Anyone who falls for this BS gets what they deserve.
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    People can do their own research on this if they want to know. The GOP only wants this as another excuse to totally ignore President Obama's budget requests. They have no problem adding to the deficit if it's for one of their pet projects. And data can and is interpreted in vastly different ways depending on who is looking at it, not to mention there are tons of different places to determine the data which would change from day to day depending on what brand of fear mongering the GOP was doing on that specific day. Congress needs to stop wasting time proposing stupid bills and actually pass laws that are good for the everyday American.
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    Kinda like making a trip. You know where you're starting from, but cannot start until you have a destination. But this trip needs a budget. Traveling is not cheap, so budget lines sets out expenses. In this analogy, we citizens are making this trip, so the total cost would be split up to each taxpayer. Now each citizen will realize his individual cost and can evaluate the trip parameters. Are you going to eat at McDonalds, Chili's or a Steak House. If the Steak House seem to much, you contact your Congressional Representative (trip planner) to reduce cost. Hopefully you can continue this analogy. If not, don't vote. Freeloaders also can't vote or make this trip. I really like the Founding Fathers idea of only "landholder" voters. Teenagers are always happy spending Dad's money.
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    This is only meant to harm the president; the budget proposal put by him is a suggestion not an order. This is a gigantic waste of taxpayer money.
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    As Countable points out, Rep. Messer passed this bill's predecessor: "MAR 5, 2013 PRESS RELEASE U.S. House Approves Messer Budget Transparency Bill Messer Passes First Bill, Aimed at Shedding Light on the Cost of Budget Deficits to Taxpayers (Washington, D.C.)—Today, the United States House of Representatives passed Congressman Luke Messer’s first bill, H.R. 668. The legislation requires the annual budget submission of the President to Congress to include the cost-per-taxpayer of the deficit for each year the budget is projected to be in deficit." My question is, why is it necessary to pass essentially the same bill again?! Can someone enlighten me???
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    A sincere waste of money and time. Another useless report.
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    My response to the con argument is DON'T BE STUPID! Most people don't have a clue who represents them in the US Congress or, even less, who represents them in state legislatures. And most couldn't tell you how debt & deficit are not the same. If information is not easily available, most citizens don't have or take time to explore issues that are complex especially those which are usually presented with emotional & moral outrage. The more people know, the better the entire system works.
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    This is a simple burden with which to comply and will help make more visible the debt burden being placed on American taxpayers. Now, taxes are not paid equally by all people so it's not actually useful for determining the true burden on a particular individual, but it will illustrate the average burden.
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    Requiring the president’s budget proposal to cite the cost to each taxpayer of that year’s deficit increases awareness of the country’s fiscal situation, and is a very simple request.
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    The more information the better.
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    Increasing the awareness of the budget and our fiscal situation should be approved.
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    I would like to know
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    The more that can be done to help Americans and governing officials understand taxes the better.
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    It appears to be little more than a smoke screen to to justify more finger pointing and fear mongering. The end result of which is to weaken the presidency and limit the scope and vision for this country's future.
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    The calculation of the cost of the deficit per taxpayer is not simple to calculate. Every factor (the deficit, the amount that taxpayers pay, the portion of taxes that goes toward the deficit, etc.) is constantly changing. This calculation maybe easily manipulated. For example, should the cost of the deficit per taxpayer be calculated by simply dividing the total deficit by the total number of taxpayers, or by including the specific amount that each taxpayer pays? What taxable entities would be included in the calculation? How would non-taxpaying individuals and organizations be included, or would they be included at all? The true cost of the deficit per taxpayer is not one calculation. It is a relative term that changes based on who does the calculation, how the calculation is executed, and who determines the standards for the calculation. This legislation would produce a politicized number that could not be used to accurately asses the economic situation.
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    People are in different tax brackets and earn different amounts. Additionally, I do not feel like a requirement like this is a valid or responsible use of time or labor.
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    This comes from a misunderstanding of what deficit means and how it affects the tax payers. This is ridiculous
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    Yes! Great bill. Why not, would be better off with. More information provided, more understandment, less calls at corruption. Also, this is a country supposedly "for the people" no? & supposedly by the people. We already lost that supposedly "by the people" to in actuality this is a country by corporations, the 1%, & rich. So at least keep the "for the people!"
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    Requiring a declaration of this sort doesn't resolve the budget, but it does hold officials accountable to the bottom line and to tax payers who can support their budget or vote them out of office. Transparency is the only defense against an extensive bureaucracy.
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