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house Bill H.R. 1261

Should the Feds Invest More Money in Landslide Research?

Argument in favor

The USGS’s Landslide Hazard Program is underfunded and consequently unable to take advantage of new technologies that can improve landslide understanding. This bill helps address this by increasing funding for landslide research and giving both the USGS and NSF the authority to provide grants for landslide research.

jimK's Opinion
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06/03/2019
Efforts to understand landslide risks, identify where the risks are greatest and to nationally catalog the geography of greatest risks are all good science. Per the CBO estimates, the costs are minor when compared to the dollar and humanitarian costs of landslides in populated areas. I also believe that if someone chooses to build in a previously identified high risk area, it should be made clear that they, alone, would bear any financial costs associated with landslide damage.
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Jugbo's Opinion
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06/03/2019
Yes, but be careful they might accidentally research climate change in the process.
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burrkitty's Opinion
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06/03/2019
It would also be useful if ANYONE LISTENED TO THE SCIENTISTS WARNINGS. Almost every multiple fatality landslide since well before the Oso slide, the geologists gave multiple warnings, sometimes decades beforehand, that the land was unstable and that catastrophic slope failures were going to occur. As a geologist, it’s really hard to work up any sympathy when people don’t listen to us. The Oso slide they warned them 40 years ahead of time before any houses were even built in the area that that slope was going to fail and that it was only a matter of time before it failed and that it would fail catastrophically and that area had a long history of catastrophic failure and they went ahead and build houses there anyway. Then in 2014 the crazy weather that year started up and the geologists went out there and said look you need to leave it’s not safe for you to stay here and people stayed anyway. and then they died. And it’s really hard to feel any sympathy. Once you learn to recognize slope failure it is really easy to spot and if we tell you that land is gonna slide, we’re not fucking around. And it happens in Arkansas all the time. We have loads of landslides all the time it’s just part of the terrain here. And if we tell you don’t cut that bank back don’t cut into the side of the hillside or you’re going to undermine that hillside it’s going to come down on your house, how about fucking not doing it. Or if we tell you to put the road on the other side of the valley and not to cut into the rock units there because they are facing the wrong way and you decide to put the road on the wrong side anyway don’t be surprised when the landslides come down and block the road. Or when we tell you that that vertical shale cliff line is spalling off and if you put your house that close to it don’t be surprised when a sheet of shale comes off and goes through the back wall of your house. If we tell you it’s not safe to build there, don’t fucking build there. It’s the same thing with building and rebuilding in the flood zone. LEARN TO GET OUT OF THE WAY!
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Argument opposed

Landslides aren’t a problem in all states, so increasing federal funding for research in this are doesn’t make sense. Landslide-prone states already have their own programs for landscape research, so it’d be more efficient for the federal government to fund these existing programs directly, rather than by funding them indirectly via the USGS and NSF.

Cindy's Opinion
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06/03/2019
No, wind blows it erodes dirt, fires eat away at the bedding then rain comes and washes it away, rocks, trees and debris are heavy. Research done! Don’t waste more taxpayer money!!!!!
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John's Opinion
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06/03/2019
A waste of money. Unstable ground + gravity = landslide. You don’t need a government bill for this.
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Colleen's Opinion
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06/03/2019
Landslides should be a state issue. They are the ones that should shore up the land and protect roads from being dumped on. As for the peapole that choose to purchase their homes in areas noted for landslides, either pay a higher premium or just don’t build there
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      house Committees
      Research and Technology
      Committee on Natural Resources
      Energy and Mineral Resources
      Committee on Science, Space, and Technology
    IntroducedFebruary 14th, 2019
    Efforts to understand landslide risks, identify where the risks are greatest and to nationally catalog the geography of greatest risks are all good science. Per the CBO estimates, the costs are minor when compared to the dollar and humanitarian costs of landslides in populated areas. I also believe that if someone chooses to build in a previously identified high risk area, it should be made clear that they, alone, would bear any financial costs associated with landslide damage.
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    No, wind blows it erodes dirt, fires eat away at the bedding then rain comes and washes it away, rocks, trees and debris are heavy. Research done! Don’t waste more taxpayer money!!!!!
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    Yes, but be careful they might accidentally research climate change in the process.
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    It would also be useful if ANYONE LISTENED TO THE SCIENTISTS WARNINGS. Almost every multiple fatality landslide since well before the Oso slide, the geologists gave multiple warnings, sometimes decades beforehand, that the land was unstable and that catastrophic slope failures were going to occur. As a geologist, it’s really hard to work up any sympathy when people don’t listen to us. The Oso slide they warned them 40 years ahead of time before any houses were even built in the area that that slope was going to fail and that it was only a matter of time before it failed and that it would fail catastrophically and that area had a long history of catastrophic failure and they went ahead and build houses there anyway. Then in 2014 the crazy weather that year started up and the geologists went out there and said look you need to leave it’s not safe for you to stay here and people stayed anyway. and then they died. And it’s really hard to feel any sympathy. Once you learn to recognize slope failure it is really easy to spot and if we tell you that land is gonna slide, we’re not fucking around. And it happens in Arkansas all the time. We have loads of landslides all the time it’s just part of the terrain here. And if we tell you don’t cut that bank back don’t cut into the side of the hillside or you’re going to undermine that hillside it’s going to come down on your house, how about fucking not doing it. Or if we tell you to put the road on the other side of the valley and not to cut into the rock units there because they are facing the wrong way and you decide to put the road on the wrong side anyway don’t be surprised when the landslides come down and block the road. Or when we tell you that that vertical shale cliff line is spalling off and if you put your house that close to it don’t be surprised when a sheet of shale comes off and goes through the back wall of your house. If we tell you it’s not safe to build there, don’t fucking build there. It’s the same thing with building and rebuilding in the flood zone. LEARN TO GET OUT OF THE WAY!
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    A waste of money. Unstable ground + gravity = landslide. You don’t need a government bill for this.
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    Landslides should be a state issue. They are the ones that should shore up the land and protect roads from being dumped on. As for the peapole that choose to purchase their homes in areas noted for landslides, either pay a higher premium or just don’t build there
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    Insurance companies should invest more money in research to reduce their costs. Conservatives state that their is no need for Government and that an unfettered market will address all ailments. When the Government pays to address issues like deadly intersections and deadly roads and flooding, etc., the insurance companies gain profit when there are less claims. Insurance companies never reduce their fees after the DOT has spent billions of dollars and reduced fatalities by 30% in a specific region.
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    No, not an appropriate job for the government.
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    This is a state issue, not a federal one. We now why landslides happen. Counties and cities need to stop zoning for housing in areas they know are at risk. They make money on tax dollars so they do so. Insurance companies go out of business because they don't refuse to insure in those areas, and then those of us who live far from those areas lose their insurance.
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    Anything that can help save our lands, people & property should be done.
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    Buy insurance. Stop living in dangerous areas and expecting others to pay for your risk.
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    It’s important to understand why landslides happen.
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    Don’t need. Bill to understand when things slide
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    Among the many obvious factors that cause landslides. I ask you to consider the not so obvious, fracking for instance has been linked to earthquakes, should this be looked into in relation to landslides?
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    The Savory Institute & Holistic Management International have proven techniques to reclaim desserts, rebuild soil, & stop erosion. These guys are the best in the world. People who hate real science won't like them because it requires ruminants. This is where science and reality work hand in hand.
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    WITH GLOBAL WARMING THERE WILL BE MORE AND MORE OF THESE DISASTERS, SO WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MITIGATE THE SEVERITY OF SUCH NATURAL HARMFUL TRADGEDIES.
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    Landslides pose dangers to traffic. Investments in modern technology is a must.
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    Landslides are a problem facing our nation even if it does not occur in every state. It affects the nation, because we have to spend tax payer money to help those affected by landslides recover. We should use the best latest technology to help understand what causes landslides and how we can prevent them.
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    Great idea especially since the entire west coast is in the ring of fire
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    Absolutely not, and eliminate this program. This is not an appropriate federal expense.
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