by Countable | 8.18.17
This week, following the violence in Charlottesville, VA, many Americans found out that "domestic terrorism" is not a crime, legally-speaking. The FBI also does not keep track of domestic hate groups. So, where do you go if you want to know more about the number and kinds of hate groups currently operating in the United States?
Many go to the civil rights watchdog group, the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which operates out of Montgomery, AL.
Critics of the SPLC argue that the organization’s work to advocate for the "most vulnerable members of our society" muddies the water when they categorize groups; causing them to mistake criticism for hate speech. Some also say that the group “oversells the threats posed by Klansmen and neo-Nazis to keep donations flowing in from wealthy liberals,” according to a profile of the organization by Politico. But in the absence of any other group tracking hate crimes and domestic extremism, SPLC is considered the place to turn.
According to SPLC, there are currently 917 active hate groups in the United States, including Black separatists, Neo-Nazis, Anti-Muslim groups, Anti-LGBTQ groups and others. The SPLC defines a hate group as one that has "beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics."
Are you concerned about domestic extremism and hate speech? Do you think the government should start tracking domestic terrorist groups and rising extremism?
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— Asha Sanaker
(Photo Credit: SPLC.org)
Written by Countable
I have no faith in our current DOJ under Sessions. However, these groups need to continue to be tracked by groups like the SPLC and private citizens in addition to the FBI. If you are chanting "blood and soil" and "Jews will not replaces us" in public it is our duty to make sure your employers and everyone else knows about it. We cannot allow them to grow in the shadows any longer
Tracking Hate groups in America is an excellent idea. Our country has become so violent and hate filled, tracking these groups seems to be a necessity now. Law enforcement tracks gangs, so why not hate groups?
I am a long time supporter of the SPLC. They have done so much in crippling the Klan by winning big settlements for those that have been the victims of hate crimes.
I graduated college about 40 years ago & my Sociology Class project was on the NEO Nazis. I had to write for information. They scared me then, but domestic extremism and hate speech has grown so much that I am Not SCARED, I AM TERRIFIED. I cannot imagine WHY THE GOVERNMENT HAS NOT BEEN TRACKING THESE GROUPS SINCE MOST DOMESTIC TERRORISM COMES OUT OF THESE GROUPS. THE ANSWER IS YES, DEFINITELY OUR FBI MUST SET UP A DIVISION TO start tracking domestic terrorist groups and rising extremism.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has placed groups on its list for political purposes not because they have caused any violence or hate. The SPLC cannot and should never be used as a reliable source. Use the FBI list of most wanted and the U.S. Department of State list of terrorist organizations as sources.
Congress needs to outlaw kkk etc.
You have got to be kidding! The Southern Poverty group is the biggest lying hate group there is! I wouldn't believe anything they put out there!
The SLPC has been discredited for decades, playing partisan politics instead of 'sticking up for the little guy'. Google it. I'm an intelligence officer, we stopped trusting their 'objectivity'. It's a leftist wrag. Looks like Countable.US is headed that way too.
Again, due process. No one should be deprived of life or liberty without due process. Whether it's a government group or outside group, it is a slippery slope to label anyone or any group that could impact their livelihood without their day in court - or it could result in damages for those suffering injuries due to the labeling.
Yes, I'm concerned about domestic extremism and hate speech groups The government should start tracking domestic terrorist groups. We need action by the FBI, Justice Department and Congress. We can't trust the President with this problem.
This is a stupid snowflake issue! And what is the definition of a hate group? The founders of the US would have been considered a hate group by the King of England! We have a constitution read it and follow it!
If you want to learn the truth about hate groups, read the New York Times best seller book called THE SMEAR by Sharyl Attkisson. You will learn the truth!! SPLC calls anyone who disagrees with their liberal views a hater. So much for them being non judgmental, tolerant evaluators.
SPLC makes the ACLU look right wing. The are very anti-anything they don't support. I know that sounds like a tautology, but they have little to do with poverty or law. Tolerance only for those that agree.
Until we have an administration that discourages hate groups and admits that they are domestic terrorists we need some one to track them and let the rest of the populace know what they're up to.
The SPLC started out fighting a good cause against true hate groups like the KKK. However, they have since changed their rhetoric, trivialized the word hate, and self-admittedly, on their own site, explain that they go after right leaning groups. Now anyone who disagrees with their far-left leaning ideologies is deemed as a hate group. Sadly, the SPLC has gone from fighting hate and violence to being the one that spreads it. On multiple occasions, this fake hate map has been used as a guide to attempt mass murder on conservative groups. Trivializing hate is not only foolish, but extremely dangerous to our society. Calling out and naming true hate groups and ideologies like the KKK, and neo-nazism is vitally important. And we need to have nation-wide discussions about them. But we can't just start claiming that anyone who disagrees with you is a hate group.
The SPLC is calling Christian groups hateful so as far as this Christian is concerned the SPLC sjould be labeled a hate group!
Wether society thinks that a particular group is a hate group really depends on that persons point of view. Some may think for example BLM, or the black panthers is a hate group or not. Others may feel like the KKK is not. A civilians point of view is always going to vary. It doesn't really matter what you or I think we just have our opinions. The FBI tracks people and not necessarily groups. Someone may be in a group and be a complete outsider.
Earlier you engaged us in a discussion about free speech. Many of your users commented that "fighting words" are not protected speech. (I disagreed.) Next, you bring up tracking "hate groups" and link to the SPLC. In 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins, II, went to the offices of Family Research Council, planning to kill as many as possible. Why? Because the SPLC had Family Research Council listed as a "hate group." By the standards of many of your users, the SPLC is guilty of "fighting words."
Look for BLM and Anti-fa. The two biggest hate groups in the nation. They have websites. If they are planning anything in your city be ready for violence.
The list of the S P L C is suspect in my mind, the issue with Muslim groups certain other groups is the reason. They are very quick to label and when it is advantageous to them or the groups the align themselves. I think they should be investigated.