by Countable | 11.9.17
In a speech before South Korea’s National Assembly on Wednesday, President Donald Trump directly addressed the regime to the North.
"Today, I hope I speak not only for our countries but for all civilized nations, when I say to the North: 'Do not underestimate us. Do not try us. We will defend our common security, our shared prosperity, and our sacred liberty."
Trump has softened his "fire and fury" rhetoric against Pyongyang in recent days, and spent much of his speech contrasting the success of South Korea with the “dark fantasy” of life across the DMZ.
"The more successful South Korea becomes, the more decisively you discredit the dark fantasy at the heart of the Kim regime," Trump told the assembly.
However, in what multiple outlets called an "unexpected move," Trump chose to directly address North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.
Trump warned Kim that "the weapons you are acquiring are not making you safer" and that Pyongyang’s nuclear programs “are putting your regime in grave danger. Every step you take down this dark path increases the peril you face."
Later, Trump referenced North Korea’s founder – and Kim’s grandfather – Kim Il-sung – saying,
"North Korea is not the paradise your grandfather envisioned. It is a hell that no person deserves."
However, Trump said a deal between the two nations was still possible, telling Kim, "despite every crime you've committed… we will offer you a path for a better future."
Officials in Pyongyang authorized to speak on behalf of the Kim regime responded to the speech, telling CNN: "we don't care about what that mad dog may utter because we've already heard enough."
Is a deal between North Korea and the U.S. possible? Should Trump return to his "fire and fury" threats? Should the U.S. pressure other countries to impose additional sanctions on the regime? Hit Take Action, tell your reps, then share your thoughts below.
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You got a crazy wacko man talking to a crazy wacko man? Does two negatives equal a positive?
So it’s been 20+ years over which NK has continued its pursuit of nuclear weapons and of late they seem to have made some real strides probably thanks to China, Russia, Iran, Obama and Hillary Clinton. I wonder what the left will say when and if Kim Jong-un launches a missile and it actually hits a US or NATO target. This would be a game changer that the world does not need to endure. The fallout will affect the world population. So our President had to navigate these waters very carefully as President Kennedy did during the Cuban missile crisis. Keeping in mind Kim Jong-un is a whack job that kills his own family members. Maybe our special forces could make him disappear in the dark of night and thus deescalating this dangerous situation. I can’t believe we have allowed this to go on for so long. Hopefully President Trump will not put our troops in harms way without considering all peaceful options or covert options first.
Let’s stay out of all North Korea battle of strength..... we can not negotiate for strength with such bullies! Trump stop acting and leading like a school yard bully! Trumps military powers needs to be restricted before he destroys any more lives!
Unfortunately, I think diplomacy has reached it’s effective end. An aggressive stance against North Korea is the only way. Enough talk. Start rallying our allies and those against N. Korea to really start putting the pressure on them...REALLY put pressure. What else can be done now? We need to protect Guam and Japan from nuclear attack. Does anyone know how much more of an influential role China can play?
Please support President Trump on this North Korean issue. Many people say ignore Korea and they have no power. It certainly looks like they are gaining power and unless this little King is not afraid of our American military capabilities he will be aiming at CA in the near future!
It’s times like this that we turn to the words of our wise men. “”Independence, liberty, freedom, a choice was made for you, my friend. Freedom with their exceptions...I speak these words, that they will bend. Freedom with their exceptions.”” So sayeth Metallica.
The ultimate goal of the GOP must be total destruction of the planet. That’s the only way any of this makes any sense.
If you like what Trump is doing and you like the military so much ( which is a necessary evil to maintain peace) please join the armed forces and be the first to fight when the war against N Korea begins !! That includes the politicians as well who do not tell the Dotard to stop instigating ! Those who are pro war are never the ones going !
Threats are usually the tactic of bullies and this POTUS ordinarily makes us look ridiculous. His new speech writer and sticking to the script almost hold gravitas. We should not call threats diplomacy—ever. Negotiations with emphasis on win-win solutions to conflict and saving face for all, particularly in Asia, is the most skillful choice in my experience.
Didn’t trump say that all countries should have nuclear weapons and that America is going to stop being the police of the world? It was when he was a candidate who then lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote. He got what asked for. Get him out of office now
North Korea’s first leader had great idea for people to live no social level like a slave or loyal or so - communist idea. 2nd and 3rd currently are corrupted so bad their people need attention so bad. Please everyone look at it and support them to be free. It’s not nuclear weapon it’s people in its country.
Trump & Tillerson have decimated the State Department at a time when we need experienced diplomats more than ever as Trump's ego and Twitter finger move us recklessly toward a Nuclear war and alienate allies all around the world. If this is not blatant dereliction of duty and evidence of unfitness for office what will it take to get Congress to do their job and reign this administration in?!! Act while we still have a country and a world!!
Could someone tell this deranged man to stop provoking another deranged man?
Yes, and I believe North Korea, in response, warned Americans about Trump.
Somebody needs to duct tape his mouth shut and take away his cell phone. He lacks common decency and hasn't a clue as to what diplomacy is. He's never given a worthwhile speech and I doubt he ever will.
We could try something that we have never tried before. We could retreat. We could de-militarize the US presence in South Korea (which many SK citizens have begged us to do for decades bc they know our military presence there puts them at greater risk of attack). I know retreat is seen as "weakness" by barbaric man-children, but since it has never been tried as an intentional military STRATEGY no one really knows whether it might lead to de-escalation or not. If it fails, we already know what the alternative looks like- death, destruction and debt. I thought the GOP loathed debt, so maybe war can be avoided to keep our debt (to China) from rising. We already know the other two "Ds" are insignificant to warmongers who profit on the suffering of others. War is NOT the answer!
Ever the bully, Trump thinks that if he threatens and smack-talks Kim Jung Un there’ll be peace and the president will be a hero. Instead, Trump is boxing himself and, far worse, the U.S. and far-East in a corner. He forgets that it’s not all about him and that he’s “the only one that counts,” as he asserted recently. Trump and the world would be better off if he would stop playing for attention and the cameras and let back-channel diplomacy work.
No comment it seems like some of it may be taken out of context. No one of course wants sanctions that cause people to starve. no comment.
Why are we so worried about imposing sanctions on other countries for deals with North Korea when we can’t even hold US Corporations accountable? Let’s make sure we are doing inside our boarders exactly what we are asking our allies to do. Wake up Congress what’s going on at home? Do you even know?
To begin. Iraq, North Korea and Iran were named as the "Axis of Evil" by President George W. Bush. We attack Iraq. Iran and North Korea see this and say "maybe we are next". They know the best way to prevent an attack is to have nuclear weapons. Now what to do? We attack, we risk a nuclear exchange or a nuclear attack on an American ally. Air power alone won't eliminate the threat, it will take ground forces...a substantial number, then we are in ANOTHER war for hell knows how long and even more casualties. So the options are: Either use our nuclear weapons in a first strike killing millions and risking the emnity of the world and in the case of North Korea a possible conflict with China, or realize that North Korea is not going to give up their ambitions and negotiate in a responsible way. We can start with talks to actually END the Korean War after 64 years and take it from there. And China is the key to reigning in the North Korean regime. They must be involved. We must continue negotiations with Iran as well. Will we get a PERFECT agreement? No, but neither will they. But we must come to a sensible agreement. If we desire change in these regimes it is easier to do this from a position of strength and a working relationship than through bluster and demands which will only make things worse.