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The Daily Countable: Who's Right on Climate Change?

by Countable | 10.24.17

Happy Tuesday, you brilliant, engaged Countable-ites, you. Today, a story about how one part of the government disputes the conclusions of another part of the government about what's Really Going On. Please don't fall asleep -- this one matters. But first: a few things you should know about:

On the Radar

Under the Radar

Top Story Today: a report from the GAO (Government Accountability Office) says the government is already spending more than ever on mitigating the impacts of climate change. According to the GAO:

Climate change impacts are already costing the federal government money, and these costs will likely increase over time as the climate continues to change.

Two key points:

  • Even while the Trump administration maintains a "climate-skeptical" stance, this GAO report specifically calls for action from the Executive Branch, saying it should "use information on the potential economic effects of climate change to help identify significant climate risks facing the federal government and craft appropriate federal responses."
  • This study was commissioned by Members of Congress, and provides the source data for upcoming legislation.

We at Countable are committed to bringing you the stories and issues that are most actionable -- always working to get YOU into the process as early as possible -- not just after an issue becomes a bill.

Your Gov at a Glance 👀

The White House: President Trump in DC

  • The president will receive his daily intelligence briefing before participating in a minority enterprise development week ceremony.
  • In the afternoon the president will swear in Callista Gingrich as Ambassador to the Vatican.
  • Later in the afternoon, the president will participate in a Senate Republican policy lunch.

The House of Representatives: In Session

The Senate: In Session


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  • Mark
    10/24/2017
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    The science is right. This isn’t something that should be “opinion polled”.

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  • Millie
    10/25/2017
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    Climate deniers are stupid. Period.

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  • Richard
    10/24/2017
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    The politics on climate change is controversial, but that’s politics at its worst. The science is clear—the vast majority of studies done by experts show that the climate is changing at a rate that could cause serious problems for humans. Most of the science, though not as much of it, strongly suggests that human actions have had a part to play in this change. Whether or not that is true, however, is less important than the fact of climate change itself. Because of the harm it can do to us, we need to address it with potential solutions. If we do not, we are truly just playing politics rather than doing the right thing.

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  • I.Got.an.Idea...
    10/24/2017
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    Lets just assume that Climate Change is not caused by or increased by human activities. Many conservatives believe and have stated that Climate Change is cyclical and have referenced the ice age(s) and believe we are just experiencing typical cyclical change. Let’s just assume that it is true that the Climate is changing due to typical cyclical change. Then we should be acting to protect and serve the citizens of the world from sea levels rising 2-3 feet or portions of the United States experiencing severe drought and other natural disasters that are and will be negatively affecting human life, due to the cyclical changing of the world’s environment and weather patterns. A successful business sees the changing of markets and quickly makes changes in the way it conducts business to be one step ahead of its competition and the wave of change that is coming and will leave all in their industry closing its doors, if it does not perform proactively to address the oncoming disasters. Republicans, if you want to run this country like a successful corporation, here is one major opportunity to prove your business philosophies, and prove that you have leadership abilities.

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  • James
    10/24/2017
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    The science on climate change is flawed and many entities such as NASA and NOAA! Have been caught red handed fudging numbers. Once again! At what time in the history of the world was there no climate change? Extreme activity on the sun can affect world temperatures! We can't control the sun and what it bombards our planet with.

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  • DrRichSwier
    10/24/2017
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    Mother Nature is always right. I’ve learned three things about the climate (weather): 1. The weather changes. 2. The changes follow natural cycles ( i.e. summer, fall, winter, spring). 3. There’s nothing mankind can do to change these natural cycles. The weather is uncontrollable, immutable and follows its own laws. Scientists can’t predict the weather accurately. How can they claim that we humans can do anything about it? Question: How many solar panels or wind turbines does it take to stop a hurricane from forming? How did fossil fuels impact the weather before the invention of the internal combustion engine? Why were there much colder (ice age) and warmer periods before man walked our planet?

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  • ConservativeMomma
    10/25/2017
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    Not only is climate change real. Alternative energy such as solar, wind and geothermal also creates a lot of jobs. I live in Illinois and when the bozo living in the WH talks about the millions he is spending on saving a few hundred jobs in the coal industry I just shake my head. Much less money is creating thousands of jobs in the solar industry alone in Illinois. Imagine if the government would spent the money they do on oil and gas and fracking on simple solar or wind? We would create so many more jobs, and btw even former coal workers do not want their jobs back. They want healthy jobs they don't get sick from. As to the deniers, yes, the world has always changed but not to this extend. Please stop believing the false stories from the Heartland Institute. It should be unlawful to spread such fake stories and lies as they do with their claims about climate change. The only ones who believes them are uneducated illiterate who cannot even spell climate change.

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  • Freya
    10/25/2017
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    The fact that this is even a political issue boggles the mind. Yes, no one thinks that climate is entirely stable over long periods of time. Yes, it is the course of nature in the history of our planet. But that knowledge and understanding came from studying weather over the couple centuries and compiling geological and historical accounts for climate prior. If you accept that climate changes over time naturally then you accept the science behind it. Then you must also accept prevailing trends that humans have EXPEDITED that process over the last century. You can’t make your argument on one piece of evidence and deny the rest. It’s not a political debate, it’s an acceptance of reality. The political aspect of it is what our moral obligations of residents of this planet require us to do. I, for one, think we do have a responsibility. And it’s imperative that we act on it.

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  • NorthShoreBobby
    10/25/2017
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    Math. Science. Fact. Sanity. 97% of climate scientists, who do this work as a job, 50-60 hours per week, 52 weeks a year. Politicians and non-scientists don’t have a shred of evidence to discount the rest of the effing WORLD, so shut up already!

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  • Carol
    10/25/2017
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    I love the letters and emails I receive from my representatives. But they are generic and do not address my concerns. The climate change issue is real. All the profits that are made from coal,oil and fracking will not even equal what we will be paying out for natural disasters. Climate change is real.

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  • Denise
    10/25/2017
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    Republicans are in power and are NOT listening to the people. They are bought and paid for by Big Oil and corporations. The whole world knows that global warming is happening right before our very eyes. We look so stupid now as Big Oil keeps grasping for every last penny they can get from raping our poor Earth. I fear for my granddaughter....What is the world going to look like for her?

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  • Herbert
    10/25/2017
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    Why are we even discussing this. Any person with a rudimentary science education knows that, like evolution, this is established science. The only people arguing the anti-science position are religious people that their beliefs will not allow them to be properly educated or those who have a monetary stake in not believing. That we elected someone like Donald Trump who has appointed an evil individual like Scott Pruitt in a position that is supposed to put established science into policy is a terrible tragedy. If we do not start the removal of these congressmen who support ignorance and greed next year we will be responsible for leaving our descendants with a Mars-like earth of maybe a Venus.

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  • Randy
    10/25/2017
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    The ignorant don’t believe and the greedy don’t give a rats ass!!!!

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  • Walter
    10/25/2017
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    Aside from enriching Al Gore and those like him, and destroying industries with onerous but unhelpful regulations, what exactly do you suppose we should do to stop the seas from rising (which they aren’t), stop droughts (which we can’t), save the polar icecaps fro disappearing (which they aren’t)! ‘Science ‘ is already being refuted by scientists and empirical evidence. Deniers are not dumb, stupid, numb skulls, murderers, or any other negative labels you can think up. We are intelligent, thoughtful, considerate and most of all, patient. Despite the ‘consensus’ of scientists scrabbling for grant money, we have waited for the non-existent debacle put forth by these ‘renowned ‘ scientists while watching leftist globalists get rich swapping carbon credits!! Puleeeze!

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  • Jeff
    10/25/2017
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    Man made global warming is one of the biggest lies ever foisted upon the human race. Don't trust the phony science, fake news, and liberal propaganda. It's all a big lie. Plain and simple.

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  • James
    10/25/2017
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    Herbert can you present any empirical evidence for evolution? I have never saw any undisputed transitional fossils. Darwin said they would be there if his theory was true. Do you know of any? Lucy, piltdown man, nebraska man, heidenberg, and neanderthal are not transitional fossils. As dogmatically as evolution is presented there should be tons of proof. Not just supposed theories built on blind faith. Dr Kent Hovind has an offer of 250,000 for anyone with scientific proof. His website is drdino.com. Do you any evidence you can share?

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  • Sam
    10/25/2017
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    There’s no scientific evidence that human activity has any serious impact on Climate Change, if climate change is real, more than 99% is from natural causes. So on our part it’s a waste of time and money. Let nature take its course, and it’ll be A OK!

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  • Jim
    10/25/2017
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    Climate science, and science in general, are being attacked by this administration. The data has shown that climate change is real and accelerating. No matter the cause, mankind or natural, we should have policies to address and mitigate. Republicans need to stand up and make policy based on facts, not politics.

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  • Tooluser1
    10/25/2017
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    The "science" is heavily politicized and has more to do with economic redistribution than the climate. The so called "consensus" has been completely misrepresented.

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  • Ticktock
    10/25/2017
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    Every person has an opinion on something, a personal view, a feeling. I started reading about climate change a little over 50 years ago. At that time I read no indication that our civilization was the primary cause because of our dependence on petroleum products. The articles did state that the climate was changing and gave some predictions. As time has progressed the predictions and facts have become more detailed. Over the existence of the earth certain events have caused climate change which is provable scientifically. The conclusion by the most reputable climatologists is that humans are the primary factor this time around. Only a miss guided soul would use an opinion poll to decide whether it’s real or not. The only time climate change is in dispute is when the discussion is with someone with a vested interest in disputing facts. Our climate is changing. We are causing it. Whether we choose to believe or not doesn’t really matter. Either we’ll be prepared or not and those that aren’t prepared natural selection will take care of.

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